fennell.dev is a Fediverse instance that uses the ActivityPub protocol. In other words, users at this host can communicate with people that use software like Mastodon, Pleroma, Friendica, etc. all around the world.
This server runs the snac software and there is no automatic sign-up process.
@joinjabber ooh, that is GREAT to hear! Thanks!
Is there a reason that I should be using #Jabber versus other #XMPP clients?
RE: https://todon.nl/@burnoutqueen/116419705967006483
BTW, #DeltaChat has proven to be able to get through "the great firewall". So, a real world example that it is a great encrypted chat alternative and/or backup to #Signal #Matrix & #WhatsApp
Can #XMPP make it through?
#Resilience is an act of #resistance
#XMPP Community
The #Chat of the Future Initiative discusses their spring activities progress today from 7:00 pm CEST!
Topics: Unified promotion material proposals and a new community online event along the XMPP Newsletter release.
I am very sorry for you to need to cope with this:
the best option for private chatting TODAY when it comes to #security, usability/user-friendly, #resilience, #digitalindependence and #freedom is #DeltaChat a chat app that uses #SMTP + #IMAP at its backbone, not your favorite "perfect" chat protocol, you don't need new better protocols, you need tools that actually work for the people
@adbenitez It's easy to say that one doesn't need better protocols after those better protocols have become so ubiquitous that you don't even realize how you're using them yourself.
Apple APNS and Google FCM use #XMPP technology to deliver push messages instantly. All the other messengers listed (#Signal, #Element, #DeltaChat) thus use XMPP technology. Everyone uses XMPP, but when it is about marketing, suddenly XMPP is not necessary.
@pixelschubsi @adbenitez new protocols are fine. The point may rather be that contrary to popular nerd belief protocols are only one part of an effort. What distinguishes #deltachat from #xmpp is that one is a cross-platform mass-user focused app with a consistent UX across the platforms and using standards under the hood, while the other is a set of specs with many different implementations and UX approaches on the various platforms, and sometimes tenuous compatibility between them.
@delta @pixelschubsi @adbenitez
I absolutely agree, that "a cross-platform mass-user focused app with a consistent UX across the platforms" is missing desperately in the #Jabber/#XMPP ecosystem.
There are really good clients for Jabber, but none of them fits above description.
AFAIK, both #Snikket/#Borogove by @snikket_im and #Fluux by @ProcessOne try to close that gap.
Still, I prefer the approach of Delta building on #Rust and #Tauri, instead of #Haxe or #Typescript. #YKINMKBYKIOK.
boostedIdea of the night: Proton's next product should be “Proton Chat,” which would simply be an XMPP account with encryption enabled by default. This could revitalize the protocol while offering a decentralized and interoperable solution.
@phalanx @davidmaddock @lorenzo
There is a tiny trigger in the original post, that is hard to ignore, though: The words "de-bigtech" and Signal together 😉
Signal is (according to themselves) inextricable from AWS and Google. It depends on #bigTech. That shouldn't be an excuse to derail questions, but it needs self-discipline 🙂
That being said, #Jabber/#XMPP might be a solution for the Signal desktop use case, with a (self-hosted?) #slidge gateway. Probably not easy.
I never tried a peer-to-peer messaging app. How well does it work with multiple devices? I.e. I have #Jabber/#XMPP both at home and at my workplace. The devices are never switched on at the same time, until I clone myself 🙂 Still, thanks to the (trustworthy, self-hosted) server, all incoming and outgoing messages are synchronized. I wonder, if/how a peer-to-peer IM can do that.
More trustworthy messaging alternatives:
- https://jami.net/ #jami
- https://github.com/berty #berty
- https://delta.chat/ #deltachat
- anything #xmpp / #jabber like e.g. #monal
(Not evaluated yet: #paligram)
@richardwonka @Good_News_Community
Thanks for mentioning Paligram! Never heard of it. Added it to my IM chart:
https://mov.im/blog/debacle/76bf90a4-5f59-4962-92db-6cd859f42ec9
And 👍 to #Jabber/#XMPP, the "fediverse of chat" since 1999 🙂
The only relevant feature for any instant messaging app (or social app, for that matter) is: Are my friends using it? People will gladly overlook minor inconsistencies or missing features as long as they can communicate with their friends. We shouldn’t recommend #Signal as a stepping stone before Jabber/XMPP becomes "good enough," if goodness is defined by the number of people using it.
#XMPP Community
User & developers are spread #world-wide in the XMPP community!
This is a call to show where you are! 🌍🌎🌏
Post a photo with the XMPP #logo and a nice view of your location 📷
Add city name and country, too.
#jabber #chat #rtc #standards #decentralization #federation #messaging
The @dino and #Conversations_im developers have a booth at @FrOSCon. Come find us to talk about #XMPP and grab some merch.
Gajim 2.3.4 has been released! 🥳
This release supports time zones 🕑 in profiles, adds drag and drop improvements, enables displaying long messages inline, and fixes many smaller issues.
Thank you for all your contributions ❤️ Let us know what you think!
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