RE: https://piaille.fr/@movim/116098387611211972

The crowd has spoken! 📢

We had many requests yesterday to ask us if we accept #Liberapay donations.

Well here we go 😸 https://liberapay.com/movim/

The link was also added on the main page, Github and related articles ✨

#movim #donation #xmpp

Alright y'all, what #XMPP bridges are good? I want to try and move more of my messaging stuff to one app

La team #xmpp vous utilisez quoi comme serveur ? Depuis quelques versions je n'arrive plus à faire tourner Prosody.
Je cherche quelque chose de simple à maintenir, peu gourmand et surtout containerisé.
J'ai installé #matrix (Continuwuity) en 10 minutes, ça ne consomme que 200 mo de ram donc le discours XMPP plus simple ça ne tient plus 😁
RT apprécié 🤩

Significant progress has been made over the past few days on the Space feature, bringing it closer to reality ✨ Here's a small preview of the current development branch 👀

To help cover the project's annual expenses and free up more time to focus on these exciting new features, I've launched a fundraising campaign for 2026 🌡️🪙😸

➡️ https://movim.eu/#fund

I've also shared full details about the different goals and how you can help me achieve them in 2026 in a detailed post on the official blog: https://mov.im/community/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/help-movim-reach-its-goals-for-2026-LQext9 📄📢

And don't forget to spread the word! 2026 will be a truly exciting year for Movim for sure 🤩

#xmpp #movim #fundraising #fund #discord

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A screenshot of the Space feature

I set SRV records for _xmpps-{client,server}._tcp.example.org. Prosody docs don't mention those anymore (but other websites do) and `prosodyctl` complains about "unknown Direct TLS port". Are they deprecated? Do I need them or can I make use of them at least?

#prosody #xmpp

@svhaag
Good old #XMPP in my opinion seems to have a bit of everything, especially for small groups: Messenger/Chat, Audio/Video calls, depending on the client, e. g. Conversations (Android), Dino (Linux) and many others. Not really as complicated as rumours suggest 😄

https://xmpp.org/software/

@wuerglerit @svhaag

While I like #Jabber/#XMPP and use it every day, I don't see it as alternative to videoconferencing like Zoom or Google Meet, yet. People are working on it, but don't hold your breath.

For now, I suggest #JitsiMeet and #BigBlueButton, which work pretty well. Never tried #NextcloudTalk or #OpenTalk, but people keep recommending them.

Of course, it always depends on your instance.

Conversations (via #UnifiedPush) is the backbone that gives #Matrix its reliable and timely notifications. An eventually consistent graph database is a nice concept, but it takes #XMPP to put the real-time into real-time communications.

#ThatsXMPP

@botler @nik @r

Ärgern darfst Du Dich natürlich und es wäre schön, wenn das Löschen ein bisschen häufiger klappte als derzeit.

Vielleicht hat der semifederierte (oder semizentralisierte?) Ansatz von #XMPP da sogar (relative!) Vorteile?

Gruppenchats (#MUC) sind jeweils nur auf einem Server. Nachrichten, die aus dem Message Archive gelöscht sind, sind dort weg. Was natürlich nicht verhindert, daß sie in den Client-Caches liegen oder jemand ein Web-View eines Chats ins Netz…

(1/2)

#Jabber

@botler @nik @r

(2/2)

…gestellt hat, was dann auch nicht mehr löschbar ist.

Microblogging passiert bei #XMPP ebenfalls immer auf einem #PubSub-Server. Mit den gleichen Vor- und Nachteilen wie MUC. #Movim, ein soziales Netzwerk auf Basis von XMPP von @movim, cached die Posts auch. Und was im Client ist, kann niemand kontrollieren, auch bei zentralisierten Plattformen nicht.

PS: Man findet noch dumme Anfängerfragen zu Linux von mir auf mailing list archives aus Anfang der 1990er Jahre 😠

#Quicksy is getting an unusually high amount of registrations from Russia and the US. I wonder if these two countries have something in common.

#XMPP #Jabber

Was war eure Messenger-Journey? Welcher Messenger war bei euch mal 'ne Weile die Nummer 1?

Bei mir war es so:

#TelMe
#SMS
#ICQ
#IRC
#XMPP/#Jabber
#Telegram
#Signal

nie auf Platz 1, aber in Nutzung waren bei mir:
#MSN, #AIM, #Y!M, #Skype, #Threema, #WhatsApp, #Matrix, #Tox, #DeltaChat

An mehr aktiv benutzte kann ich mich nicht erinnern, wie war es bei euch? #Slack dabei? oder #Teams? Vielleicht #RocketChat?

@f @deusfigendi

#IRC #ICQ #SMS #XMPP
(Ganz kurz #Threema - aber zum Glück schnell wieder los geworden).

Aktuell #XMPP als Nummer 1 und für ein Projekt #IRC.

@stefan @f @deusfigendi

Mitte/Ende der 1990er mal ein bisschen IRC, in den 2000ern testweise #Jabber (mein antiquarischer @jabberdotorg Account existiert noch!), aber beides schnell wieder eingeschlafen, zugunsten von SMS.

Dann wollten wir ≈ 2014 Chat in der Firma und haben uns für Jabber (#Prosody) entschieden. Seitdem nutze ich es viel, auch privat. IRC, SMS und Matrix via #XMPP gateways (#biboumi, #sms4you, #slidge).

Alles andere nie probiert:

https://mov.im/blog/debacle/76bf90a4-5f59-4962-92db-6cd859f42ec9

As I use #Conversations #XMPP client to chat with my family I configured it to be also an #UnifiedPush distributor.
This reuses the already existing XMPP connection to also serve other android apps for push messages.
On server side I used #ejabberd community module mod_unified_push.

It works nicely.
When I update event in nextcloud, DAVx⁵ gets notified and update is immediately synced to phone.
When I get new notification on Mastodon, Tusky is notified and notification shows on phone.

I hope more apps are going to support this in near feature.

I first installed an XMPP server back when it was Jabber over 20 years ago, and I remember chatting to people on Google Talk, before they decided to do their own thing. Having just installed Prosody (#XMPP) and Tuwunel (#Matrix) servers, both of which are excellent, I am personally of the opinion that XMPP is a lot more sensible.

#InstantMessaging #FOSS

Me, my ego and myself are trying #xmpp out.

Is someone here using it also or are there channels to recommend?

Thanks

Use protocols, not services: https://notnotp.com/notes/use-protocols-not-services/

Interesting read. Makes me want to set up an #xmpp server just to feel some level of #privacy against #surveillance. It feels like privacy and control of our own data is dead.

Quick guide how to configure ejabberd with mod_invites. Also some short section for administrative tasks.

https://joinjabber.org/tutorials/self-hosted/ejabberd/#great-invitations

#ejabberd #xmpp

Ooh here's another interesting Discord alternative: https://snikket.org

Basically preconfigured XMPP with federation and e.g. voice calls out of the box. I wonder how moderation works on XMPP though, can you safely federate without it turning into the Matrix experience.

#Snikket #Discord #XMPP

Use-case: Mitigating the iOS ecosystem poverty and storage space limitations on various other mobile devices that do have a browser.

(I cannot mandate what devices my users use, nor can I afford to buy them new ones.)

Signal recently implemented and launched Pinning of messages

https://signal.org/blog/pinned-messages/

I really think it is a useful feature and have been using it in Mattermost and Slack for many years.

I hope #xmpp clients like #dino #gajim and #conversations_im will follow with a similar feature, maybe even making it possible to sync such message pins across clients.

@aslmx

I agree.

It needs, however, a #XEP, so that a message I pin at my work PC on #Dino is also pinned when I'm at my home PC on #Gajim.

@xmpp

#Jabber #XMPP #conversations_im

After evaluating a number of E2EE decentralized chat alternatives, the one I ended up *actually using* with all its warts is #XMPP.

#DeltaChat is technically very interesting and I will keep a close eye on it, but until its severe issues with group moderation are fixed, it's a non-starter for anyone wishing to run groups with more than a handful of users who know each other personally. Its back-end tech stack is also not any less rickety than XMPP setups, and isn't easier to deploy either.

@0x7700e6 you asked for it, we did it!

Movim can now stream your tab or desktop audio when doing a video call ✨

We also improved the layout to clarify when someone is streaming with a [Live 🔴] status and the current resolution of the streamed video.

A little note: audio sharing is not available on all the browser and OS, checkout the compatibility tab there: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Screen_Capture_API/Using_Screen_Capture#browser_compatibility

One of the many #Discord features that is now available on Movim and in the #XMPP ecosystem 💪😸

You want to help us in this awesome journey? Support us on our Patreon 🤗: https://www.patreon.com/posts/bye-bye-discord-150553921

Getting back to work, see you 👀!

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A screenshot of the Movim visio UI

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The original tweet asking for the feature

@amd #Prosody is like a box of LEGO®, perfect for "Build your own #XMPP server adventures"!

#Snikket is like if someone assembled those pieces, added a touch of mobile apps and unified branding, all glued together in a productified box!

Après cette semaine j'ai quand-même envie de refaire un point sur les solutions alternatives à #Discord et où elles en sont selon moi :

• #StoatChat c'est bébé Discord, même UX, l'interface est un copié collé. Et raisonnablement je pense que tout le monde va aller là dessus comme tout le monde est parti de Twitter pour aller sur Bluesky. Et le problème ben... C'est que c'est bébé Discord, l'hébergement en open source n'est qu'un afterthought, c'est donc très centralisé et j'ai pas trop confiance dans le fait que ça soit pérenne en terme de techno libératrice.
• #Mattermost, #Zulip et similaires, c'est très bon en terme d'UX quand on vient de Discord même si l'aspect est sûrement trop corporate, J'pense que c'est la meilleure solution pour migrer immédiatement. Le problème étant que c'est décentralisé mais pas fédéré donc la charge technique et financière tombe sur les organisataires de communauté qui vont devoir chacun trouver et payer un hébergeur avec un tarif dépendant de la taille de leur communauté (ou se regrouper pour mutualiser ça mais ça fait aussi une charge organisationnelle en plus) et côté utilisataires on va se retrouver à potentiellement faire autant de comptes que de communautés qu'on rejoint sans que les applications tiennent compte de cet usage (elles sont faites pour être inscrit sur deux ou trois instances, pas 36) donc ça va être relou aussi.
• #Matrix c'est de la merde. C'est décentralisé et fédéré mais le réseau s'effondre dès que le gros serveur ramouille, en terme d'UX c'est le désastre, les applis sont mal fichues, affichent partout des messages incompréhensibles ou inutiles, rament de ouf, on nous parle de chiffrement à toutes les sauces (en termes obscurs) mais il y a plein de bugs bizarres et des problèmes de synchronisation entre clients et entre serveurs. Et l'implémentation des espaces (l'équivalent des "serveurs" Discord) a été faite par des gens qui ont pas compris à quoi ça servait.
• #XMPP c'est pas prêt. Ça a vingt ans et il y a un gros héritage du passé, l'UX est aux fraises, il y a des bizarreries à tous les coins de rue, les applications ont toutes les options de la terre et des paramètres par défaut aberrants. Mais c'est décentralisé, fédéré, il y a plein d'hebergeurs, ça peut absorber des afflux d'utilisataires sans broncher et sans faire tomber les serveurs des copains. S'il vous plaît les gens qui font de l'UX, allez voir les gens qui développent XMPP et s'il vous plaît, par pitié, les gens qui développent, écoutez les. XMPP le protocole c'est le turfu depuis plus de 20 ans, XMPP les clients c'est le passé depuis toujours, faut vraiment faire quelque chose même si ça semble aller dans la bonne direction. Faudrait sûrement aller petitionner les gens qui font #StoatChat pour qu'iels transforment leur truc en client XMPP en vrai. Là on pourrait dire go.

Et je vais essayer d'arrêter mon hyperfixation de la semaine sur ce sujet parce que je me fatigue, probablement je vous fatigue aussi et je pense que si je continuais là dessus ça serait juste redondant.

@lou_de_sel

"#XMPP c'est pas prêt."

People are working on "XEP-0503: Server-side spaces" https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0503.html right now, which should be equivalent to Discord servers. Not sure, because I never used Discord.

@movim

If you're interested in setting up a secure chat service for you and your friends, you might want to try @snikket_im

🌱 https://snikket.org

It's really cheap to run and easy to set up, it's managed hosting so you don't need to do techy stuff.

Technical details: it runs on XMPP with OMEMO end-to-end encryption, but this is hidden behind non-technical branding so it doesn't scare people.

Instances are federated, Snikket and other types of XMPP instance can communicate.

#XMPP #OMEMO #E2EE

anybody have any xmpp public server recommendations?

#xmpp

"22 companies using XMPP and ejabberd to build instant messaging services"
Interesting to see how #XMPP, which tends to be seen as barely used, remains the go-to solution in the industry (which unfortunately locks it in a closed environment).
https://www.rst.software/blog/22-companies-using-xmpp-and-ejabberd-to-build-instant-messaging-services

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Graph listing 22 companies that use XMPP protocol and ejabberd servers to power their chat services. This includes Facebook, WhatsApp, Nintendo, Grindr, Zoom, Kik.

Uh, uh, uwu!

The guide I’ve been working on all week just went online!

It’s meant to help folks using the new invite feature.

https://joinjabber.org/tutorials/service/great_invitations/

You’re admin of an XMPP server and you (just) enabled mod_invites? Then this is for you! Share that link with your users so they can spread the fun!

#xmpp #greatInvitations #nlnet #ejabberd #prosody

Hey #xmpp and #jabber experts on Mastodon: my XMPP server is im.interfree.ca, and so my JID is fastfinge@im.interfree.ca. However, I would like to alias my JID to fastfinge@interfree.ca. That way my email, jabber, and fediverse id's are all the same. I control the DNS on the entire domain. How can I do this? A quick search isn't finding me a list of clear and straightforward steps.

The only relevant feature for any instant messaging app (or social app, for that matter) is: Are my friends using it? People will gladly overlook minor inconsistencies or missing features as long as they can communicate with their friends. We shouldn’t recommend #Signal as a stepping stone before Jabber/XMPP becomes "good enough," if goodness is defined by the number of people using it.

#Jabber #XMPP #Conversations_im

#XMPP Community

User & developers are spread #world-wide in the XMPP community!
This is a call to show where you are! 🌍🌎🌏

Post a photo with the XMPP #logo and a nice view of your location 📷
Add city name and country, too.

#jabber #chat #rtc #standards #decentralization #federation #messaging

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The XMPP Community Banner

The @dino and #Conversations_im developers have a booth at @FrOSCon. Come find us to talk about #XMPP and grab some merch.

Gajim 2.3.4 has been released! 🥳

This release supports time zones 🕑 in profiles, adds drag and drop improvements, enables displaying long messages inline, and fixes many smaller issues.

Thank you for all your contributions ❤️ Let us know what you think!

Support Gajim's development: https://liberapay.com/Gajim

#gajim #xmpp #chat

https://gajim.org/posts/2025-08-11-gajim-2.3.4-released/